Tuesday, December 26, 2006

Hot Drinks- the spawn of Satan ?????


I saw this in a article from the BBC about Mitt Romney and the possibility of a mormon president:

You may already know that Mormons do not drink coffee or alcohol but what you might not know is that their religious ban is on "hot drinks". And that cocoa has been decreed "not hot".


Now I was familiar with the decree not drink alcohol or coffee, but I assumed, naively, that it had something to do with the particular effects that those respective drinks had on human behavior. No, they are banned for being a tad to warm. What about soup, that almost a drink or that dipping sauce you get with a French Dip sandwich that is usually on the warm side. And why does Cocoa get some sort of waiver on the 'no hot drinks' rule. Cocoa is always hot, in fact, that is why people drink in the first place, because it is hot. What is wrong with these people. If you want to have a rule about hot drinks have a rule, but don't try to tell me that cocoa is not hot. Its hot, end of story.

excelsior

6 comments:

Philosopher Jeff said...

"The Books of Morons"

Joseph Smith wanted to have multiple wives and was a fringe political nut job. When the authorities are ready to come after him for bigomy, low and behold, a miracle. Joseph Smith finds evidence in the woods that says Jesus Christ came to North America and the J man is cool with bigomy.

Fast forward to today. Most Mormon sects don't support bigomy anymore, but foundation of the religion is still the "Book of Mormon" via Joseph Smith's lucky find. Any you think banning "hot drinks" and giving cocoa a waiver is looney? If I compare believing that Joseph Smith (aka "nut job") found of the "Book of Mormon" to banning hot drinks with cocoa getting a free pass...well, my vote for the most looney goes to believing in the "Book of Mormon".

P.S. I loved the post. It was informative and enjoyable to ridicule people that will believe anything.

Jerry the Librarian said...

Thanks for the kind words pj, but people can believe whatever they want, but have little consistency. Cocoa is hot. There is not really a debate about that it is a hot drink. You can serve it cold, but then I think you are drinking something else. Cocoa is hot and giving it some sort of dispensation is silly. Either drink hot drinks or don't but don't tell me that cocoa is not hot. As for the plural wife situation is clearly wacko, but at least it is consistent.

p.s If you want to read a good book on Smith and the Mormons check out Under the Banner of Heaven by John Krakauer. It combines then kidnapping of a Utah teenager with the lunacy of the Joseph Smith and the boys.

excelsior

Philosopher Jeff said...

I have a problem with the line "people can believe whatever they want". I hear this all the time when someone is being critical of someone else's beliefs.

Currently in our society we are so PC that we have to be careful of critiquing anyone's beliefs or we seem intolerant. The statement is actually offensive in nature toward the critic and creates an aurora of blame upon the questioner. Of course it's true that anyone can believe what ever they want. Just being critical of a belief is not equal to mandating a thought Gestapo.

Also, the line "people can believe whatever they want" is being used as a shield for people that are against intellectualism. Today we have a President that believes God endorses his policies and he makes decisions based upon "his gut" instead of facts. Furthermore, the Republicans attack academia as being out of touch and encourage outright dismissal of research based knowledge. But you can't be critical, or you're being intolerant of their beliefs.

So my critique of following Joseph Smith is right on and valid. I agree with you that the "warm cocoa" thing is inconsistent, but following the book of Joseph Smith is significantly more dangerous.

Now I'm not picking on Mormonism as a whole. Actually the Mormons I have known are often more concerned about making themselves more like Christ than all the Evangelicals that want to force their beliefs upon everyone else. So I would like to hang out with Mormons more than Evangelical Christians. But the foundation of their beliefs is totally unsound and is fair game to argue the validity of their beliefs.

Jerry the Librarian said...

PJ,

The point of the post was not to actually delve into the validity of Mormanism or any other religious mumbo jumbo. It was merely to mock their beliefs. If you are going to believe in something, then believe in it don't pick and choose. Either hot drinks are one step to eternal hell fire or they are not. Drinking cocoa is hot thus evil, but they chose to look away. Why, because they want to. Thats not belief its arbitrary.

p.s I cannot beleive that J-man could care less what temp our drinks are, just does not seem important enough.

excelsior

Philosopher Jeff said...

That's exactly what I would expect a hot beverage drinker to say.

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